05-30-2011, 02:45 PM
Havard Wrote:Good find! I bow to the knowledge of beverages of our German/Spanish conneseur.
However, I wouldnt rule out that while the beverage may have been the origin of the name, this could have given other associations to the players (and Dave) later on, bringing in ideas from the Leiber novels. So the two theories may not be mutually exclusive.
Sorry for being so destructive, but I think you're wrong:
Just how generic is the idea of a Northern port city with a strong Thieves Guild? Other than the name, it could just be medieval Hamburg. Or, why not the thieves guild from Port Kar, from the Gor novels, which are proven to have had an impact on the game?
Or, AFAIK, the Midkemia crew was already active convention-wise in the 70s. They had one iconic early D&D Thieves Guild, why not theirs, the Mockers?
The point is, we have the beverage rule, and no other statement that Lankhmar was indeed appreciated by the group (in contrast to the early Greyhawk crowd, from which the positive outlook on Leiber mainly stems).
But, for example, the Conan novels Sprague de Camp wrote in the 60s ALSO feature port cities with thieves guilds:
Why Lankhmar, and not one of them?
