08-12-2012, 06:29 PM
Wow, this got to be the longest lore post I make on any forum pretty much since the beginning of "The Promised Land".
In the Wilderlands, the "first men" are, essentially, apes with wings, yeah. Think, Flash Gordon. Pretty funky, actually.
The space ghost, that's my interpretation, of course - because it is related to the only literally source we know absolutely sure,
and because it is comprehensible to the players on a very basic level, and opens many oportunities in terms of dramatic storytelling.
Essentially, the "Egg of Coot"/the Evershard's malevolent spirit in my game is "The Color out of Space" from Lovecraft, had it hit a spellshard...
"Elves are plumbers" - this is actually not from me, but sort of a bonmot already: So, (in Tolkien) Elves are essentially, immortal angels, and they live forever.
The best civilization was the one they build immediately after arriving in Middle Earth, and every historical step from the past to the present only furthered the fall of grace.
- So, if they had the best civilization, and if they had the best functioning infrastructure, that implies they had the best toilets, too.
Actually, yes, I think so, because it leads to questions about how one likes to depict historic progression:
For example, were the races of the gaming world created (like with Tolkien), or evolved (like in, say, Dragonriders of Pern)?
Or, does one stick to the "older is better" trope that nearly all post-Tolkien fantasy uses for precursor civilizations? Is the current age just an inferior mirror
of a past world (Numenor/Gondor, Valyria/Westeros), or, is it a result of positive evolution (like, where the dwarves simply goatherders before they discovered mining)?
Essentially, the questions one would need to solve, as I understand it, would be:
1. Do we use a creationist, or a evolutionist model for "the beginning of time"?
2. Which races appeared where and how?
3. How evolved were those races when homo sapiens appeared?
4. How do we treat overall mythological aspects? In my specific model, for example, how old are the gods from the Blackmoor setting,
and are they based on legends about real individuals, or more, concepts of belief? - For example, much to Havard's chagrin, the LFC explains the myth
behind the Mystaran deity Ixion as the tale of an Ultron-like robot that got declared god king by a wild halfling tribe... :wink:
Aldarron Wrote:hock:
winged monkey ghost from outer space?
In the Wilderlands, the "first men" are, essentially, apes with wings, yeah. Think, Flash Gordon. Pretty funky, actually.
The space ghost, that's my interpretation, of course - because it is related to the only literally source we know absolutely sure,
and because it is comprehensible to the players on a very basic level, and opens many oportunities in terms of dramatic storytelling.
Essentially, the "Egg of Coot"/the Evershard's malevolent spirit in my game is "The Color out of Space" from Lovecraft, had it hit a spellshard...
Havard Wrote:Perhaps you can explain this further? The Roman Empire did develop quite sophisticated infrastructure, like roads, aqueducts and plumbing. This is a result of a large urban based civilization. The more rural oriented feudal kingdoms would have had less need for such things.
"Elves are plumbers" - this is actually not from me, but sort of a bonmot already: So, (in Tolkien) Elves are essentially, immortal angels, and they live forever.
The best civilization was the one they build immediately after arriving in Middle Earth, and every historical step from the past to the present only furthered the fall of grace.
- So, if they had the best civilization, and if they had the best functioning infrastructure, that implies they had the best toilets, too.
Havard Wrote:Do these questions link back to the idea of a Stone Age campaign?
Actually, yes, I think so, because it leads to questions about how one likes to depict historic progression:
For example, were the races of the gaming world created (like with Tolkien), or evolved (like in, say, Dragonriders of Pern)?
Or, does one stick to the "older is better" trope that nearly all post-Tolkien fantasy uses for precursor civilizations? Is the current age just an inferior mirror
of a past world (Numenor/Gondor, Valyria/Westeros), or, is it a result of positive evolution (like, where the dwarves simply goatherders before they discovered mining)?
Freedom92 Wrote:Curious of what races would be around besides humans though as well as what classes would be acceptable to be around.Wokans, druids/shamans, druids, barbarians, clerics even, possibly almost every low tech material class and bards in the form of oral lore keepers.
Essentially, the questions one would need to solve, as I understand it, would be:
1. Do we use a creationist, or a evolutionist model for "the beginning of time"?
2. Which races appeared where and how?
3. How evolved were those races when homo sapiens appeared?
4. How do we treat overall mythological aspects? In my specific model, for example, how old are the gods from the Blackmoor setting,
and are they based on legends about real individuals, or more, concepts of belief? - For example, much to Havard's chagrin, the LFC explains the myth
behind the Mystaran deity Ixion as the tale of an Ultron-like robot that got declared god king by a wild halfling tribe... :wink: