11-25-2009, 04:50 PM
Raskal:
I have not find any information about the extreme south east in the North map, the zone crossed by the Greenway at the south of Pug's Station and east of the Taff River.
This region is part of Blackmoor kingdom ? Thonia Empire ? Peshwah ? Others ?
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Havard:
My guess is the plains region (Eastern Hak) is dominated by various Peshwah tribes. Although not shown on the D20 line maps, the City of Marban should appear somewhere behind the "The North" logo. Marban is a Thonian city and I imagine everything south of that is Thonia.
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Raskal:
I have scheduled to masterize "The Six Spheres of Zaihhess" (Necromancer Games), so i need a wild area, Frontier like, with isolated villages.
This region seems ok for that. The villages can be populated by Thonia Empire colonists, a little isolated and surronded by Peshwah tribes.
The information about Marban is linked to your Blackmoor in Mystara setting ?
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Havard:
I don't know "The Six Spheres of Zaihhess" beyond what you describe here, but it sounesd like it should work. Another alternative would be using areas along the western side of the map.
IIRC Marban is mentioned in one of the DA modules, but otherwise not linked to Blackmoor in Mystara.
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DClingman:
By TSR canon, the southern border belongs to the Thonian Empire. By Dave Arneson's version it's something slightly different. I hate to tease, but I can't disclose that right now. More will be made available in the coming months. Smile
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Raskal_
Ok, i can wait some month...but not to long Wink
I hope that Dustin will release a setting book for the (mad & evil) world around Blackmoor
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Rafael_
Will the upcoming BM DMG contain material covering the outskirts of Blackmoor? What about Rhun, that legendary country Marfeldt looted, for example? - I can see me introducing that one into my games. Smile
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Raskal:
Rhûn is a land at the east of Mordor. I suppose you are speaking of another land ?
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Rafael_
Joined: Jun 15, 2005
Posts: 2209
Location: Würzburg, Germany
No, I am referring to the land mentioned in the First Fantasy Campaign's description of Marfeldt's past. There,Rhun is mentioned as a place where MArfeldt first came to fame. (pg. 15) It's generally taken for granted that this Rhun is equal to the one described by Tolkien, BUT after all, it's one of the few moments where the world around BM is described. (If we let all later TSR tie-ins to Mystara aside.)
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Raskal:
I am a little confused by this book. There is a lot of reference to the Great Kindgom (Marfeldt was responsible of the divisions of this kingdom, p20). This is the same Great Kingdom than in Greyhawk ?
Yes, page 21 in my edition, there is a short Biography on the barbarian : The Archives of Rhun.
In your setting, Blackmoor is linked to the Known World of Judge Guild ?
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Rafael_
Basically, since I understand that Blackmoor, Greyhawk, Myrlind's Dungeon and all the other first-hour D&D settings were extremely focused on their main dungeons, it was fairly easy to link them with a very generic overall setting. Actually, from the first hour of D&D, no details are known about the details of the Great Kingdom (that I could remember). So, in short, it's not Greyhawk's Great Kingdom, but maybe a very similar place. I personally think of doing some kind of crossover with Blackmoor and the Great Kingdom as described in *Ivid the Undying*.
IMC, I indeed take the existence of the Wilderlands as granted. I set them on some unspecified place southwards. Mostly, I use them as background for some more fleshed-out stories and as additional option for characters. If you don't have already, get the PG to the Wilderlands as soon as you can. For me, it's almost THE definite d20 product when it comes to incorporate new material into a BM game. Smile
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Havard:
Here is my take on this stuff:
Blackmoor is set in Mystara's ancient past, ca 6000 years before the Known World (gazetteer era).
The Great Kingdom may have similarities to Greyhawk's Great Kingdom, but I envision it as more Conan-esque with decadent rulers, slave girls, camels etc. Something like Gomorra in the movie Scorpion King. Most Thonians IMC have been given slavic names inspired by Taha Marcovic, but I'm thinking I should make them more middle eastern or byzantine in the future.
I have found a location for Blackmoor's Rhun, which will be revealed soon... Cool
The Wilderlands also exist IMC to the southwest. I'm not sure it will have a great impact on my campaign at all, but I agree that the PG is an excellent book. Its style has influenced the way I present Blackmoor even if the PCs will never travel to those lands.
Havard
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-Havard
I have not find any information about the extreme south east in the North map, the zone crossed by the Greenway at the south of Pug's Station and east of the Taff River.
This region is part of Blackmoor kingdom ? Thonia Empire ? Peshwah ? Others ?
****************
Havard:
My guess is the plains region (Eastern Hak) is dominated by various Peshwah tribes. Although not shown on the D20 line maps, the City of Marban should appear somewhere behind the "The North" logo. Marban is a Thonian city and I imagine everything south of that is Thonia.
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Raskal:
I have scheduled to masterize "The Six Spheres of Zaihhess" (Necromancer Games), so i need a wild area, Frontier like, with isolated villages.
This region seems ok for that. The villages can be populated by Thonia Empire colonists, a little isolated and surronded by Peshwah tribes.
The information about Marban is linked to your Blackmoor in Mystara setting ?
***********************
Havard:
I don't know "The Six Spheres of Zaihhess" beyond what you describe here, but it sounesd like it should work. Another alternative would be using areas along the western side of the map.
IIRC Marban is mentioned in one of the DA modules, but otherwise not linked to Blackmoor in Mystara.
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DClingman:
By TSR canon, the southern border belongs to the Thonian Empire. By Dave Arneson's version it's something slightly different. I hate to tease, but I can't disclose that right now. More will be made available in the coming months. Smile
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Raskal_
Ok, i can wait some month...but not to long Wink
I hope that Dustin will release a setting book for the (mad & evil) world around Blackmoor
********************
Rafael_
Will the upcoming BM DMG contain material covering the outskirts of Blackmoor? What about Rhun, that legendary country Marfeldt looted, for example? - I can see me introducing that one into my games. Smile
**************
Raskal:
Rhûn is a land at the east of Mordor. I suppose you are speaking of another land ?
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Rafael_
Joined: Jun 15, 2005
Posts: 2209
Location: Würzburg, Germany
No, I am referring to the land mentioned in the First Fantasy Campaign's description of Marfeldt's past. There,Rhun is mentioned as a place where MArfeldt first came to fame. (pg. 15) It's generally taken for granted that this Rhun is equal to the one described by Tolkien, BUT after all, it's one of the few moments where the world around BM is described. (If we let all later TSR tie-ins to Mystara aside.)
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Raskal:
I am a little confused by this book. There is a lot of reference to the Great Kindgom (Marfeldt was responsible of the divisions of this kingdom, p20). This is the same Great Kingdom than in Greyhawk ?
Yes, page 21 in my edition, there is a short Biography on the barbarian : The Archives of Rhun.
In your setting, Blackmoor is linked to the Known World of Judge Guild ?
*******************
Rafael_
Basically, since I understand that Blackmoor, Greyhawk, Myrlind's Dungeon and all the other first-hour D&D settings were extremely focused on their main dungeons, it was fairly easy to link them with a very generic overall setting. Actually, from the first hour of D&D, no details are known about the details of the Great Kingdom (that I could remember). So, in short, it's not Greyhawk's Great Kingdom, but maybe a very similar place. I personally think of doing some kind of crossover with Blackmoor and the Great Kingdom as described in *Ivid the Undying*.
IMC, I indeed take the existence of the Wilderlands as granted. I set them on some unspecified place southwards. Mostly, I use them as background for some more fleshed-out stories and as additional option for characters. If you don't have already, get the PG to the Wilderlands as soon as you can. For me, it's almost THE definite d20 product when it comes to incorporate new material into a BM game. Smile
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Havard:
Here is my take on this stuff:
Blackmoor is set in Mystara's ancient past, ca 6000 years before the Known World (gazetteer era).
The Great Kingdom may have similarities to Greyhawk's Great Kingdom, but I envision it as more Conan-esque with decadent rulers, slave girls, camels etc. Something like Gomorra in the movie Scorpion King. Most Thonians IMC have been given slavic names inspired by Taha Marcovic, but I'm thinking I should make them more middle eastern or byzantine in the future.
I have found a location for Blackmoor's Rhun, which will be revealed soon... Cool
The Wilderlands also exist IMC to the southwest. I'm not sure it will have a great impact on my campaign at all, but I agree that the PG is an excellent book. Its style has influenced the way I present Blackmoor even if the PCs will never travel to those lands.
Havard
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-Havard
Currently Running: The Blackmoor Vales Saga
Currently Playing: Daniel S. Debelfry in the Throne of Star's Campaign
Currently Playing: Daniel S. Debelfry in the Throne of Star's Campaign