Provinces of the Great Kingdom

[Havard]

The only thing we know about Cirkhosia from published material is that they have contact with the Skandaharians. This does suggest a more northernly location. I agree with you on the Gin/Djinn association.

-Havard

[aldarron]

The only thing we know about Cirkhosia from published material is that they have contact with the Skandaharians. This does suggest a more northernly location. I agree with you on the Gin/Djinn association.

-Havard

Yep, my real suspicion is that the name is influenced by David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia and the memorable scene where Lawrence is captured and thought to be a "circassian". I think that name kind of sticks in the mind, and I can't help but think people made a Cirkhosian/circassian connection in thier heads. I do anyway.

[Rafael]

So, time to update this.

So, "The Empire of the Owls" became "Evensong - The Ghosts of Summer".

So, the LFC is drawing to its conclusion. The party will, in all likelihood, see two more provinces of Thonia before the game is over.

But then, game over.




Now, for the next step I might need the help of experts:

As I have recently revealed, I will concentrate most of my real-life DMing efforts in 2012 and 2013
on running the Irilian story arc from White Dwarf magazine.

(Don't get mistaken by the scenarios being short; it's quite a handful, actually.)

So, my question for the esteemed Blackmoor scholars around the Round Table would be, where set Irilian in Blackmoor's Known World?

There is really no other connection than that I like to have one, but I don't mind giving Irilian and environs a similar treatment
that I am giving to the Broken Tree Inn/Chainmail/Temple of the Elemental Evil hybrid that is "Ghosts of Summer".

So, gentlemen, let your creative juices flow.

...And while you're on it, I'd also like to hear suggestions on where to run "The Lichway" in a Blackmoor environment.

[aldarron]

My google-fu reveals next to nothing on Irilian except that it is a city. So without knowing the flavour, The only thing I can say really is that Rhun is ripe for development and might do well. There's also the Izmer connection if you wanted something a little more developed.

[Rafael]

"Irilian" was first published in some early White Dwarf magazines, and later collected in "Best of White Dwarf Volume I/3".

Now, given that I might run it as part of the Evensong cycle, Iam only going to go so far as to say,
it's a distinctively proto-celtic city with a heavy orc problem. :wink:

Definitely worth a look. Said to be the best serialized city setting before the 3e adventure paths. A gamer's jewel.

[Havard]

Map of the Great Kingdom is in progress...

Question back to Rafe: Where on Greyhawk would be the best location for these adventures? Your answer may help me answer you...

As to Proto-Celtic, the Vales is the first place that leaps to my mind...

-Havard

[Rafael]

Hmmm... If I would set this in Greyhawk, I'd probably set it in Bonemarsh or Sheldomar Valley (to name two opposite regions).

The Vales, of course, I might just leave alone. :wink:

I hear, great things are going to happen there, soon... :twisted:

[Rafael]

Sticky-ing this thread, simply because I think it's one of the best we ever had, and many people are going to use it.

[aldarron]

Lately I've been mulling something over.

I've mentioned before that I'm not thrilled with calling the Great Empire "Thonia" as a formal name; mostly because that name was slapped on by TSR fanboys in the mid 1980's and has no history with the setting. I don't mind using it as a name of a race or class of people (high Thonians, etc.), but have only reluctantly used it for the Great Kingdom.

Because Greyhawk, Khalibrun, and Blackmoor were originally on the same continent and essentially the same setting, I think most of us are comfortable merging info from the these campaigns from the 1970's but balk at anything after and including the World of Greyhawk publication, for much the same reason I don't like using Thonia.

We've talked a little about that with quag keep geography. Anyway, apparently Gygax BiTD referred to the Great Kingdom as They Great Kingdom of Aerdy. I haven't found to much about it, but here are some interesting quotes from one of his Qand A's online:
"…Aerdi has Gothic architecture, BTW, while the Great Kingdom has Byzantine...
The Great Kingdom has parts other than Aerdi…
The United Kingdom is often referred to as England, but it included Wales, Scotland, and various parts of Ireland during the middle ages; it also included Normandy and various other parts of contemporary France.

Think of the Great Kingdom as en empire, Aerdi as the core. It is the Great Kingdom because it rules all the other parts outside of Aerdi, just as Great Britain was and is more than England."

[aldarron]

This probably ought to be repeated here too...

Walworth is most likely a Duchy in Thonia or other southern lands. The Earl of Walworth was the persona of Gary Gygax in the Castles & Crusades Society...

Havard

From the "Garbage Tidbits" thread