05-31-2011, 09:32 AM
In this thread, I wrote the following:
At the Piazza, Ripvanwormer added some interesting thoughts to this topic:
Later, I have included some thoughts on the Dragon Deities:
Insellageth (NG) - First Diamond Dragon -NG (aka Bahamut)
Chamber (NE) - First Pearl Dragon CE (I'd like to make him Tiamat, but that seems wrong)
Tsartha (N) - First Opal Dragon - N
For the original Great Dragon, I would steal the backstory of Io, with a big difference that a new Great Dragon would rise after the GRoF... Possibly Insellageth is the one who becomes the Great One who later sponsors Thelvyn etc...
Currently we are also discussing whether Cretia and Calelrin could be the same entity...
-Havard
Quote:Over at the Mystara Mailinglist, someone asked me about the deities of Blackmoor and which Mystaran immortals these might correspond to for those trying to combine the settings.
The Immortals in Question are the following:
Zugzul - given
Thanatos - given
Ordana - given
Protius - Patron of the Sea and Sea Races.
Faunus - given
Terra - Patroness of Earth
Ka - Preservation of old cultures, lizardfolk. Good immortal.
Korotiku - Trickster, Spider
Hel - My guess is Hela
Calitha - Patroness of Sea-going elves.
Kagyar -Patron of Brute Men (Cavemen) and Smithing/Crafts. Later of Dwarves.
Valerias - Love (Chaotic)
Verthandi - Time, Precognition
Ixion - Sollus is my guess for this one.
At the Piazza, Ripvanwormer added some interesting thoughts to this topic:
Ripvanwormer Wrote:Calitha Starbrow = No parallel in the Blackmoor elvish pantheon. The best solution would be either to simply add her to the pantheon as a goddess sponsored by Ordana and opposed to Hydros, or to assume the elves of Blackmoor don't worship her, though she may be worshiped elsewhere in the world at the time.
Garal Glitterlode = Both Garal and the gnomish race are older than popularly believed in the present day, and Garal was already an Immortal in 4000 BC, albeit a very young one. At that time, he was known as Mieroc, and popularly believed to have been sponsored to Immortality by Charis/Terra, rather than by Kagyar, as the story has it in later times when Terra has little to do with either dwarves or gnomes.
Hel = Definitely Hela.
Ixion = Pacuun (he even has Ixion's flaming sword and hatred of Entropy) and Sollus (who else could Sollus be?). It may be a bit odd for the same Immortal to have two aspects worshiped in the same culture, but somehow it worked out that way. Perhaps originally he was known as Sollus to the Blackmoorians and Pacuun elsewhere, but eventually the folk of Blackmoor adapted Pacuun to their pantheon as well.
Ka the Protector = Fronaus. Note his golden armor and his emphasis on protection. He might even be the Peshwah god Raelralataen as well, with his golden sickle.
Kagyar the Artisan = Kadis to the humans. Known as Ferros to the elves and Hemgrid to the dwarves. As Hemgrid, he was the chief patron of the dwarves until Dhumnon took that position from him. After the Rain of Fire, when most of the old dwarf gods are forgotten, Kagyar/Hemgrid takes his old position as the chief patron of the dwarven race back.
Protius = Hydros to the elves, Mwajin (whose name is similar enough to Manwara) to the humans of the North.
Korotiku = Hersh.
Terra = The elven goddess Terra. Known as Charis to the gnomes. Her mysterious sponsor may actually be Koorzun.
Valerias = Phellia. Goddess of love, lover of Ixion/Pacuun.
Verthandi = Dealth to the elves (her portfolio of travel and magic can be read as including time travel; basically, all we know about Verthandi from Wrath of the Immortals is that he created many time-traveling artifacts). Pathmeer of the dwarves may be the same as Skuld. Dealth could also conceivably be Tyche.
Wayland = Kela the Wanderer.
Later, I have included some thoughts on the Dragon Deities:
Insellageth (NG) - First Diamond Dragon -NG (aka Bahamut)
Chamber (NE) - First Pearl Dragon CE (I'd like to make him Tiamat, but that seems wrong)
Tsartha (N) - First Opal Dragon - N
For the original Great Dragon, I would steal the backstory of Io, with a big difference that a new Great Dragon would rise after the GRoF... Possibly Insellageth is the one who becomes the Great One who later sponsors Thelvyn etc...
Currently we are also discussing whether Cretia and Calelrin could be the same entity...
-Havard
Currently Running: The Blackmoor Vales Saga
Currently Playing: Daniel S. Debelfry in the Throne of Star's Campaign
Currently Playing: Daniel S. Debelfry in the Throne of Star's Campaign
