03-11-2011, 08:02 AM
This is surprisingly fun. 
I really need to buy one of those.
I've been equating them with the Nomads of Ten (and the Karsh) which are probably desert Peshwah... Southern Ten I see as eastern karsh. Too early for the Afridhi I think.
Yeah, that 800 year gap is just too big for me to swallow no matter how it's spun, but I think putting the mage wars at 815 won't alter the subsequent timeline.
As a side note, if you do put the influx of wizards circa 800, there should be some trigger events and you'll have to figure out who the emporer is who "issues the call" for settlers and arcanists because it can't possibly be Robert I.
I'm not sure the source of my thinking (heh, could have been you!) but I have the Red Coven formed by a group of Rogue wizards who found Starport as thier remote base to take advantage of the diamonds and the privacy. I don't see them preexisting somewhere else first. The date is a wild guess, but I wanted the Duchy of the peaks to exist in my age of Id campaign. Maybe instead it should just be the city state of Starport - not quite a "duchy" yet?
Well, there's the dating issue. I picture Kargas as a semi legendary figure from a milenia ago. But even using the TWC dates, I'm hesitant to merge two named figures, particularly when there are so many gaps and unnamed persons. Its okay, but I'd rather see them as seperate people.
Right, I wondered where that r came from. I wonder if Bakula was one of the later players or perhaps Dave himself.
Uther's parentage is still a mystery to me, but I recall somewhere a suggestion was made that he had some Elvish blood - that's why I tied him to Menander and Bakula.
The King title stems from Ra-All being declared "king" in vestfold in the FFC and the reference to Svenson being "a long time pal of the king". I kinda reasoned that the king title was ceremonial and meant "king of humans in Blackmoor" just as Menander is "king" of the elves, Uberstar king of the dwarves etc. Thus Ra-all could be king and earl all at once. Since Ross places Bakula as the next Earl in Vestfold, I figured the title would continue, along with Co-Concilor in 996 and Co-regent in 997.
I'm unsure of when Bakula dies, or when Menander dies, or when Uther declares himself king, or if there is a direct relationship between any of those, so input here is humbly requested. It seems sensible to have Uther as Bakulas heir, but I don't know about that either. There may be a different difference in Uther's title too in that he seems to me to be dissolving the Co regency and the earldom and declaring himself king of all Blackmoor.
Havard Wrote:Impressive!
David Ross' work is indeed outstanding. If you compare Ross' timeline with the one in the D20 sourcebook, you will see that even Ross' typos are carried over... .
I really need to buy one of those.
Havard Wrote:... Ross' replaces Ben Hassock with Barbarian on the basis that Ben Hassock is a pun. I agree with this decision. I equal them with a tribe of Peshwah myself, though I considered using the Afridhi.
I've been equating them with the Nomads of Ten (and the Karsh) which are probably desert Peshwah... Southern Ten I see as eastern karsh. Too early for the Afridhi I think.
Havard Wrote:I keep this at a later date in accordance with the D20 line. I also think the Cabal would have big problems imposing on the elves at this early point, since they were much stronger before the Id incident and the later rise of the Egg. Even today I think the Cabal would have problems challenging the elves.
Yeah, that 800 year gap is just too big for me to swallow no matter how it's spun, but I think putting the mage wars at 815 won't alter the subsequent timeline.
As a side note, if you do put the influx of wizards circa 800, there should be some trigger events and you'll have to figure out who the emporer is who "issues the call" for settlers and arcanists because it can't possibly be Robert I.
Havard Wrote:I have the coven from early on, but the Peaks be founded after 500.
I'm not sure the source of my thinking (heh, could have been you!) but I have the Red Coven formed by a group of Rogue wizards who found Starport as thier remote base to take advantage of the diamonds and the privacy. I don't see them preexisting somewhere else first. The date is a wild guess, but I wanted the Duchy of the peaks to exist in my age of Id campaign. Maybe instead it should just be the city state of Starport - not quite a "duchy" yet?
Havard Wrote:So you are not going with Pissaic=Kargas as I suggested?
Well, there's the dating issue. I picture Kargas as a semi legendary figure from a milenia ago. But even using the TWC dates, I'm hesitant to merge two named figures, particularly when there are so many gaps and unnamed persons. Its okay, but I'd rather see them as seperate people.
Havard Wrote:Should read Bakula. Ross uses Bakura, but in Garbage Pits, it is spelled with an "l".
Right, I wondered where that r came from. I wonder if Bakula was one of the later players or perhaps Dave himself.
Havard Wrote:Quote:1013 - Afridhi conquer Ten. Ran of Ah Foo commits suicide. Bakula, declares Uther his heir and dies shortly thereafter. Uther Proclaimed King and Co-regent. (TWC)
This doesnt quite make sense. First of all, there are the references to Uther's father who might play a role here, or is he Bakula? Secondly, Uther would not use the tilte King until his break away from The Great Kingdom/Thonian Empire.
-Havard
Uther's parentage is still a mystery to me, but I recall somewhere a suggestion was made that he had some Elvish blood - that's why I tied him to Menander and Bakula.
The King title stems from Ra-All being declared "king" in vestfold in the FFC and the reference to Svenson being "a long time pal of the king". I kinda reasoned that the king title was ceremonial and meant "king of humans in Blackmoor" just as Menander is "king" of the elves, Uberstar king of the dwarves etc. Thus Ra-all could be king and earl all at once. Since Ross places Bakula as the next Earl in Vestfold, I figured the title would continue, along with Co-Concilor in 996 and Co-regent in 997.
I'm unsure of when Bakula dies, or when Menander dies, or when Uther declares himself king, or if there is a direct relationship between any of those, so input here is humbly requested. It seems sensible to have Uther as Bakulas heir, but I don't know about that either. There may be a different difference in Uther's title too in that he seems to me to be dissolving the Co regency and the earldom and declaring himself king of all Blackmoor.