04-22-2014, 04:11 AM
The remarkable thing about this is, I am awake. Still, or, again, I don't know. ...Are those my feet? :x Give me a coffeeeeeeeeee... 
hock:
Here you have all manuscripts by Robert Adams that presumably still exist from Adams. Mainly from the 1980s. not the 1970s.
No mention of a magazine article, or an entire collection of the original novels; that's why I suggested looking for the publisher.
Let's see... Original publisher was Pinnacle Books, acquired by Kensington Books in 1988.
Then, eventually, after a time of completely falling of the grid, the novels were republished by Mundania Press, in a rather shitty edition, since 2005.
(Those were the books I own, at least in part.)
Now, I also own some books from anthology series from the 70s, like "Flashing Swords", and "Swords Against Darkness", which were arguably among the most famous of the time, and, again, no Adams, no horseclans, and nothing pre-1975.
As I stated earlier, in retrospect, I think the Horseclan-series might have had more of an impact on the DA series, than on Blackmoor itself.
This is from this page giving an overview on the Horseclan series:
http://www.geocities.ws/evilsnack/horse.html
Sounds very much like something one could draw upon for the Afridhi, though I have to confess - I don't remember much from the books, as in, where this is first mentioned. But all of this is post-1975, of course, and how much sense it makes with the origins of Toska Russa that we know about, your call.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Maratha_Wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Maratha_War
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... s#ref79712
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baji_Rao_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshwa
http://www.heritage-history.com/www/her ... hratta.php
No doubt there. If anything pre-FFC-publication is crystal-clear, then this. The article on Peshwa by Wikipedia is unclear, I think - "peshwa" just means "leader", "king", or "chieftain" in Persian. Really, any historical fiction about the area or the ethnic group usually uses the term.
As to where other writers weigh in with Arneson - the only textual references we have from him pre-TSR point to a reception of Tolkien and Moorcock.
All the rest, really, probably not so much Arneson's contribution, but that of the respective players on his table, with every character giving the setting a new spin.
Middle-Eastern-inspired fantasy, by the way, was very popular in the 70s, from Sprague de Camp's "Ishtar Gate" (?), over Moorcock, to Tanith Lee's "Cyrion". - While the use of ME tropes in the DA series might seem overproportional from today's perspective, it was pretty normal around the time, in general.
hock: Quote:http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13...tire_text/
Here you have all manuscripts by Robert Adams that presumably still exist from Adams. Mainly from the 1980s. not the 1970s.
No mention of a magazine article, or an entire collection of the original novels; that's why I suggested looking for the publisher.
Let's see... Original publisher was Pinnacle Books, acquired by Kensington Books in 1988.
Then, eventually, after a time of completely falling of the grid, the novels were republished by Mundania Press, in a rather shitty edition, since 2005.
(Those were the books I own, at least in part.)
Now, I also own some books from anthology series from the 70s, like "Flashing Swords", and "Swords Against Darkness", which were arguably among the most famous of the time, and, again, no Adams, no horseclans, and nothing pre-1975.
As I stated earlier, in retrospect, I think the Horseclan-series might have had more of an impact on the DA series, than on Blackmoor itself.
This is from this page giving an overview on the Horseclan series:
http://www.geocities.ws/evilsnack/horse.html
Quote:The Moon Maidens
are a sub-group of Ahrmehnee who occupy a hold in a volcanic valley bordering on the main Ahrmehnee territory. Their society is a strict matriarchy (ruled by a Council of Grandmothers), in which men have been reduced to slavery. The women are either lesbian or celibate, having carnal relations with men only for reproductive purposes. After the Witchmen loot their hold and trigger a volcanic eruption that utterly destroys their entire valley, the Silver Lady instructs the Maidens to abandon both their lesbian and matriarchical ways, and marry into a group of Freefighters and Confederation soldiers that they encounter.
Sounds very much like something one could draw upon for the Afridhi, though I have to confess - I don't remember much from the books, as in, where this is first mentioned. But all of this is post-1975, of course, and how much sense it makes with the origins of Toska Russa that we know about, your call.
Quote:Sources? Links?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Maratha_Wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Anglo-Maratha_War
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... s#ref79712
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baji_Rao_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshwa
http://www.heritage-history.com/www/her ... hratta.php
No doubt there. If anything pre-FFC-publication is crystal-clear, then this. The article on Peshwa by Wikipedia is unclear, I think - "peshwa" just means "leader", "king", or "chieftain" in Persian. Really, any historical fiction about the area or the ethnic group usually uses the term.
As to where other writers weigh in with Arneson - the only textual references we have from him pre-TSR point to a reception of Tolkien and Moorcock.
All the rest, really, probably not so much Arneson's contribution, but that of the respective players on his table, with every character giving the setting a new spin.
Middle-Eastern-inspired fantasy, by the way, was very popular in the 70s, from Sprague de Camp's "Ishtar Gate" (?), over Moorcock, to Tanith Lee's "Cyrion". - While the use of ME tropes in the DA series might seem overproportional from today's perspective, it was pretty normal around the time, in general.