01-21-2012, 10:52 AM
Havard Wrote:Sorry it took me a while!
Looks like a good list. I would probably leave the Peshwah, Elf, Dwarf and Dragon deities out of this setup. I consider the Holy Thonian Church to be the continuation of the Church of the Facts of Life.
Also, IMC I identify Id with Thanatos.
Uzukul as a deity is a cool addition!
The Pathmeer/Hersh connections comes from the fact that they are both patrons of Thieves (Dwarves and Human) and both neutral. Pathmeer is for some strange reason listed as LN, which is fairly odd for a patron of Rogues. I am a little reluctant to list Hersh among the Dark Lords. Although CN, he doesnt seem evil. Volketh seems to take the role as patron of evil thieves and assassins.
Same thing with Elgath: The D20 Sourcebook hints at Elgath as a fairly dark deity, but if you accept the Faunus/Sylvain connection, then I think he needs to be removed from that list.
So this would leave us with:
GREATER GODS (as acknowledged by the Church of the Facts of Life)
Baldin
Fronaus
Henrin
Khoronus
Mwajin
Odir
Pacuun
Pathmeer
Sacwyhne
Temrin (dead)
DARK LORDS
Brr'bb't
Hella
Tyrhm
Thanatos
Uzu Kul
Volketh
Zugzul
-Havard
Cool! I like leaving the dwarf/elf/peshwa god names in just because I like the argument that they are really exactly the same gods with just a different name. Mostly cause that simplifies things a little and adds a little more variety/detail to the combined deity. But I can see your point.
Hersh and a few others were tough to place. I agree that he’s not evil, and elgath certainly isn’t evil. The difficulty is how to define the split between dark lords and greater gods. At first I was looking at the evil vs good paradigm, same as you, but that’s tricky, and the “neautral” alignments (which change from the d20 to 4e books anyway) are really problematic.
So then I started to look at it as chaos vs. law rather than good vs evil. That seemed to make a little more sense to me but really fit when I discovered that the EPT gods are also organized into two groups as gods of Change vs gods of Stability.
So Hersh and Elgath seemed like they would be aligned with the forces of change/chaos rather than the forces of law/stability.
I’m now going with linking Faunus with Korzuun and yoosef as Greater gods/stability; whereas Elgath/Sylvian I put with change/chaos.
Thanatos as Id – that’s interesting. I had just remembered the entry in the Ordo Elementarum write ups about the Tempus Abbatis and was planing to add it to the Id description. Was thinking the the egg and the Tempus Abbatis. Were both manifestations of Id. I’m not sure if Thanatos really fits as the “father” of those two given the technology angle, but maybe Thanatos is yet another kind of Id manifestation?
Anyway, let me know what you think, especially in regards to whether you divide it up as good vs evil or chaos vs law and how that affects the list.