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Westryn/Cumasti split
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When exactly did the division between the two races occur?

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#2
Well, the Maiden's Timeline mentions Westryn first appearing around the year 134, so that's a starting point I guess.

I would assume the elven civilization is about as old as the Thonian Empire. Dungeons of Castle Blackmoor speak of the Decline of Elves in the "6th Era".

I have linked the 6th Era to the destruction of the Temple of Id around the year 512. The fact that Dwarves have settled in the North just some years prior to this may be coincidental or not.

What does the Decline of Elves represent?

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#3
Ask Jared.

He had it pretty nicely detailed in his tale about the lost elven capital. Somewhere along "The Road"...
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#4
Okay, I'm hoping he'll pitch in later on then! Smile

I did some reading up myself last night. It seems like officially, the split occurred after an alliance between Men and Elves had been formed but when the humans then betrayed the elves, the Westryn were the elves who felt they could never forgive the humans. The Cumasti sought to reconcile the races, but the king of the Westryn cursed his people.

The current Black Queen of the Westryn is the daughter of this king. Of course, with the long lifespan of elves, setting these events almost a century back might be just about right.

I'm trying to reconcile this with the Maiden's Timeline, but it seems like there's a slightly different spin to the story there. Looking at events which may be relevant, the alliance between elves and men could have been against the Red Coven?


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#5
That is what I imply, indeed.

As I have commented often, the problem with published BM canon is that it is overloaded with things happening too soon.

IMC, the Black Queen is called "The Willow Queen", and it is implied that the Westryn are slowly transforming their race into tieflings.
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Rafael Wrote:That is what I imply, indeed.

Okay cool. That works quite well with how I see things.

Quote:As I have commented often, the problem with published BM canon is that it is overloaded with things happening too soon.

I see your point here. Otherwise I might have suggested moving this split forward in time to the conflict with the Temple of Id.

Quote:IMC, the Black Queen is called "The Willow Queen", and it is implied that the Westryn are slowly transforming their race into tieflings.

Wicked :twisted:
I love the name the Willow Queen by the way!

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