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Id Monster Tribute in Dark Sun module? (was: Monsters from..) - Yaztromo - 04-02-2020

Aldarron Wrote:Id monster

I suspect this is a tribute to the Id Monster https://darksun.fandom.com/wiki/Id_Fiend

Re: Monsters from Published Blackmoor Books - Havard - 04-02-2020

Yaztromo Wrote:
Aldarron Wrote:Id monster

I suspect this is a tribute to the Id Monster https://darksun.fandom.com/wiki/Id_Fiend

Nice find!

I wonder if we could get this confirmed somehow? Maybe the author can be contacted on social media?

The creature looks less panther-y than I would have imagined, but it is Dark Sun afterall! Smile

-Havard

Re: Id Monster Tribute in Dark Sun module? (was: Monsters fr - Havard - 04-02-2020

Doing some more research on this, it looks like the Id Fiend form Dark Sun originally appeared in the Dark Sun AD&D 2nd Ed Monstrous Compendium Appendix.

Anyone know who created the monsters for that one?

-Havard

Re: Id Monster Tribute in Dark Sun module? (was: Monsters fr - Yaztromo - 04-04-2020

Well... either it is a direct tribute to Blackmoor (and indirect tribute to the Forbidden Planet) or a direct tribute to the Forbidden Planet (that was where the Monster from the Id originally came from), by-passing Blackmoor...

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Re: Id Monster Tribute in Dark Sun module? (was: Monsters fr - Havard - 04-04-2020

Yaztromo Wrote:Well... either it is a direct tribute to Blackmoor (and indirect tribute to the Forbidden Planet) or a direct tribute to the Forbidden Planet (that was where the Monster from the Id originally came from), by-passing Blackmoor...

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I forget if VA Vaugn's Voyage of the Space Beagle/Black Destroyer was a direct influence on Forbidden planet, but you are right that the name Id Monster was introduced in the movie.

The Dark Sun creature could have been influenced directly from the movie or just the term "id" from psychology, but it would be cool if it had been included as a direct reference to the FFC. Smile

-Havard

Re: Id Monster Tribute in Dark Sun module? (was: Monsters fr - aldarron - 04-04-2020

Interesting. My very strong suspician is that Gygax created the Invisible Stalker based on the Id monster.