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Location of the City of the Gods - aldarron - 08-24-2010
Well, the city of the gods is in the Valley of the Ancients, which is the desert, or part of the desert, south of Blackmoor.
or is it? Perhpas they simply lie in the same direction or some of the VoA must be crossed on the journey?
Da4 definetly puts CoG in the desert, but this is the one DA product Dave had no input into other than the broad concept (crashed space ship). Sandy Deserts are not an ideal place for high tech.
Rob Kuntz, on the other hand, who ventured there in the mid seventies, tells us the City of the Gods is in or very near to the plains of Hak!
"“Besides, to cross the plains again would be madness.'" Robilar had given in to that line of logic. The plainsmen they had encountered while crossing the barren area before the city had been tenacious in their pursuit and always strong in numbers. And it had been tricky for a day or two while eluding them. No doubt these would be watching for their return. Robilar did think it odd that their pursuers had not followed them to the city's outer precincts. Surely their scouts must have seen them finally approach the city and prepare to enter it."
- Rafael - 08-25-2010
:wink: Spoiler tags added.
Gaaaaaaaaah, first Havard, then you, all on my toes.
I know the answer to this, but I obviously cannot comment.
Excellent observation, though.
- aldarron - 08-25-2010
Heh. Sorry Rafe
Oh but, when its safe to, let us know!
- Rafael - 08-25-2010
Nono, please go on - it's just a warning for the players.
I already shared most of the plot with Havard, so he, as our principal BM loremaster, wouldn't have to limit himself.
The only thing the tag signals is that my players should stay the hell out until we have passed the respective chapter in our campaign.
- Havard - 08-25-2010
A few things.
City of the Gods is DA3. DA4 Duchy of Ten is the one where Dave was not consulted much.
Looking at the maps, the Valley of the Ancients is close to the Plains of Hak. In fact it divides the Eastern Hak from the High Hak.
Finally, Robilar most likely arrived from the Great Kingdom (ie Greyhawk) so he would have entered the Valley of the Ancients from the South after crossing the Eastern Hak.
The advantage of having the CotG in the desert is that so much it could quickly have been covered by sand, only scattered metal "towers" and other structures emerging from the sand.
Havard
- aldarron - 08-25-2010
Havard Wrote:Finally, Robilar most likely arrived from the Great Kingdom (ie Greyhawk) so he would have entered the Valley of the Ancients from the South after crossing the Eastern Hak.
Havard
The eastern Hak IMHO is difficult if not impossible to reconcile with the original DA map and the concept of Blackmoor as a northern province of the Great Kingdom. I happily ignore it.
In the story, Robilar and Mordenkienen (sp?) decide to adventure in the CotG and then journey to Blackmoor castle, buy some supplies and follow the road leading to the City of the Gods, a journey of apparently two or three days, including time dodging the Plainsmen.
Given that BM is north of the VoA and Greyhawk is somewhere south of it, there wouldn't be much reason to to all the way to the village of Blackmoor, unless the roads were a faster way to travel and CotG lay somewhere SE or E of the town, or there was simply no way to enter the VoA from the east - unlikely since even if there was a big cliff or something, M could use a levitate spell and R had boots of Flying.
- Havard - 08-25-2010
Aldarron Wrote:The eastern Hak IMHO is difficult if not impossible to reconcile with the original DA map and the concept of Blackmoor as a northern province of the Great Kingdom. I happily ignore it.
I don't see it as problematic at all. There are plenty of examples of nomads living within the borders of other realms without being subjugated by the rulers of those realms.
Since the Afridhi invasions more Peshwa have been driven into the Eastern Hak, while most nomads lived to the west of the Valley of the Ancients in the past. The Peshwa presence in the east is vital to explain Peshwa Na Shepro becoming the baron of Dragonia.
-Havard
- aldarron - 08-25-2010
Well, the trouble would be explaining the more or less free travel from the south into Blackmoor, as the plainsmen would be a constant threat, requiring imperial outposts, armed travel and so forth. Could be that way I suppose.
- Havard - 08-26-2010
Aldarron Wrote:Well, the trouble would be explaining the more or less free travel from the south into Blackmoor, as the plainsmen would be a constant threat, requiring imperial outposts, armed travel and so forth. Could be that way I suppose.
I like this description. It actually makes for a pretty interesting environment. I would assume that the region has been much more peaceful in the past, but with an increased number of Peshwa being driven to the east, the situation has grown more dangerous. This might be what has stirred up the Dragons as well...
Havard
- aldarron - 08-26-2010
Well, I will contiue to happily ignore the eastern Hak
but if it helps your outline, I was thinking of the american west in the mid 1800's with the plains indians, US army presence and wagon trains to California and such.