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Keres is Thanatos? - Havard - 11-21-2012
In my latest Blog Articles on the Burrower Wars, I introduced the character Keres (my creation).
However, according to the DAB D20 CS, the man who killed Temrin became the God Thanatos. Thanatos is interesting because he appears as the God of Death in both Blackmoor, the Wilderlands and Mystara.
However, Mystara canon is pretty clear about Thanatos having existed since the dawn of time (not sure about WL canon). OTOH, if Keres killed the God of Time, I guess he could bring himself back to the beginning, even if he was born at a later point?
Sounds like something out of Star Trek! 8)
-Havard
Re: Is Keres Thanatos? - Aegir - 11-21-2012
Havard Wrote:Sounds like something out of Star Trek!
As long as he doesn't get there through a black hole then its all good
Re: Is Keres Thanatos? - Havard - 11-21-2012
Aegir Wrote:Havard Wrote:Sounds like something out of Star Trek!
As long as he doesn't get there through a black hole then its all good
Hehe!
I actually introduced Keres in order to make the thing even more ambigous. Perhaps he was simply a shaman worshipping Thanatos and using the power drawn from Temrin to summon the Burrowers?
Not also that I made his tribe the Qullan Tribe. My idea is that the Qullan serving the Egg of Coot in later days are descendants of Keres' Tribesmen.
-Havard
Re: Is Keres Thanatos? - Aegir - 11-21-2012
Havard Wrote:Note also that I made his tribe the Qullan Tribe. My idea is that the Qullan serving the Egg of Coot in later days are descendants of Keres' Tribesmen.
So in the time of Keres they're something akin to Neanderthals, but sometime between then and the "present day" they've been interbred with demons and basically turned into 8' tall Tieflings?
Reading that link, it sounds like even the Egg doesn't necessarily feel safe in their presence, seeing as he kills them if they get close and uses them by basically cattle prodding them into the front lines as shock troops. Makes one wonder what it is about them that makes the Egg uncomfortable.
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Yaztromo - 11-21-2012
Actually in your article I got hooked by the sound of Keres' name and guessed a link between Keres and Khoronus.
This is also due to the fact that you state that Keres absorbs the power of the god of time in his body - and Khoronus (aka Chronos) is just another "edition" of the god of time, if you think about it...
Thanatos (maybe not so much at Burrowers war era?) is often very good at "suggesting" evil deeds froom behind the scenes... maybe he was behind the assassination plan: I don't think that a mortal on his own can put together and deliver such a good plan to murder a god... or not?
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Yaztromo - 11-24-2012
Hypothesis:
Keres is a soul shaman and, for his bad luck, steps into Thanatos.
Thanatos can't reincarnate to cause chaos, but can take over Keres body.
Keres/Thanatos finds a suitable weapon in the glacier and tricks Temlin (god of time).
Keres/Thanatos absorbs the mystic energy of dying Temlin and uses it to awake the Burrowers and bring chaos and death to the world for several centuries.
The vital energy sent to the Burrowers to wake them up is channeled to the Dimensional Vortex that swallows the immortals (and that keeps the Old Ones away), as the Burrowers have some connection with it (and the Old Ones).
Thanatos wouldn't sacrify his own vital energy to awake the Burrowers, but wanted to use somebody else's energy.
Thanatos is happy, goes back to his planes and leaves behind the useless body of Keres as an old toy.
Keres body still have a sparkle of Temlin mystic energy, but that's not enough to be a god again.
Temlin mystic energy in Keres body is enough to get reincarnated (or time-transported?) in the mortal Khoronus (much later in time) and to send an inspiration to immortal Khoronus (much much later in time) to send a time machine random back in time (that time machine will end up to the mortal Khoronus, making effectively possible that the immortal form of Khoronus sponsored the mortal form of Khoronus).
This is all part of a secret quest of the secretive god of time (Temlin-Khoronus-third reincarnation tbc) to become immortal three times and send his vital energy through the Dimensional Vortex every time (returning to the status of mere mortal) in order to achieve an higher level of power. First and second part of his quest are completed.
Reference: http://www.roberto.roma.it/FORUM/download.asp?GET=http://www.roberto.roma.it/public/download/CODEX_TOMO_I_2.0.pdf
Just an hypothesis... :wink:
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Havard - 11-25-2012
This is some really interesting speculation.
I posted my version of the role Khoronus plays in this story up on my blog, but much of this is still compatible with that...
-Havard
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Yaztromo - 11-25-2012
Uhm... I think in my previous post I might have confused Old Ones, Outer Ones and... :oops: I'm confused... :roll:
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Havard - 11-25-2012
Yaztromo Wrote:Uhm... I think in my previous post I might have confused Old Ones, Outer Ones and... :oops: I'm confused... :roll:
Yeah, I can see how that gets confusing.
Outer Beings: Godlike beings of Ultimate Evil
Old Ones: Entities that are to Gods as Gods are to mortals.
-Havard
Re: Keres is Thanatos? - Yaztromo - 11-25-2012
OT:
Havard Wrote:Outer Beings: Godlike beings of Ultimate Evil
Old Ones: Entities that are to Gods as Gods are to mortals.
Not sure how Outer Beings can really be the Ultimate Evil (there are plenty of Evil Demons within Mystara's multiverse immortals, so maybe that's just a "rumor"...).
Possibly the Old Ones gave a Multiverse to the Outer Bengs and another to Mystara's multiverse immortals (to prove themselves and try getting "promoted"...)