So Havard posted a snipet from Greg in the ODD74 forum timeline thread.

this bit caught my attention:

"two rival empires lost scout ships there. Neither was from the Ursoid Republic (one was human - from Steve Rocheford's [think Saint Stephan from Temple of the Frog] minor human empire and the other avian from Scott Belfry's avian empire). "

Now, Correct me if I'm wrong but, I'm under the impression that the city of the gods is the spaceship Saint Stephen arrived on. So, where are the avians?

The Voyage of the Space Beagle by A.E. van Vogt ,origin of the Displacer beast, the Beagle and allegedly the plot of the film Alien, has an encounter with the avian Riim so that could do as a placeholding name.

The Ursoid Republic sounds like fun!

Avian aliens. Wow. :shock: I'm just awed by the potential visual of such a thing.

Ursoid Republic was in the mall next to Banana Republic. ;)

Anybody remember the hawk man from the Buck Rodgers tv show? Not quite what I picture for the Avians but maybe not a bad source of inspiration for some of the character.

I like the idea of bird-people. I wonder if we could link them to that bird-race from the Creature Catalog. I forget their name.

Don't the Wilderlands have various bird-like races as well?

-Havard

I have a memory of a bird-race in one of the D&D monster books (MM2 or FF) called the Kenku, though they were depicted as smallish, IIRC.