By all means, BE argumentative! :) That's the purpose of a "discussion board", isn't it? :)
Also, if you contradict me in a convincing way, I can always ban you! :twisted:

- On topic, though: We're on the same page here, it's just a bit of convoluted semantics, I think. Can we agree that AiF is not a resource of universal applicability, even for the more well-rounded fan of Mr Arneson's work? - Because my problem, as stated above, is just that the item in question is pretty expensive for a gaming product. I would not unconditionally recommend it to people, unless they are really, really already at the stage when they have already collected most of the other material out there.

Also, and I am aware that I might be wrong there, but wasn't AiF precisely Arneson's step away from Blackmoor, rather than an addition? Did he want to use the ruleset for what later became the DA modules? - Because my impression was that the ruleset etc. were not all too close to D&D/"The Fantasy Game". But then, I did not do any sort of close-reading. :)

Awww, man. Let me ban SOMETHING, at least! :)

What... What about we ban "eating while posting"? There are some boards who do that!




...Anyway, back to topic: Any idea who is the current copyright holder of AiF? I want to know who is going to sue me if I keep the name Bleakwood in a certain booklet... :wink:

NOW we're talking! :) See, this is where I think differently about things - for all we know, Mr Arneson was a very progressive gamer; that's how he invented "The Fantasy Game", after all. Like most of the early-80s publications by the different members of the St. Pauls group, I think this game came from an evolution of his concepts, not some sort of genesis-hour retroclone. (I don't have my copy here, but I am not even sure if there were rules for demihumans as PCs in it - or maybe I am mixing with P&P...)

Also, do you happen to know Dragon Warriors, the UK game, Fin? The two games feel very, very similar, at least on first sight. I wonder if there is, in fact, some sort of connection.

Interesting to see where this discussion has been going.

Although it has been interesting so far, perhaps we could shift towards discussing which setting elements from AiF might be used with Blackmoor? :)

-Havard

Well, the Referee's map looks compatible enough with Blackmoor - wasn't Bleakwood originally the name of a place near Bramwalk, alongside the shores of Steelhead River? (I don't remember, at all. :) )

Personally, I think the entire atmosphere fits more into either a VoA, or a Loch Gloomen environment. :)