Welcome! I think it's very good that you join - both of you are actually posters I respect a lot, and I hope we will have some great talks here. :)

Alright if you would please point me to the Arneson side of the story so I may have a take from that viewpoint. Thanks in advance.

Please open a new thread for that. Also, I will help you out, no problem, but you need to be a bit more specific.

Oh, and while I am on it, rather than to hear it from me, if you're really into the topic, get this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Playing-at-World- ... 0615642047

Explains things in a fairl good way, and most importantly, has footnotes. :)

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be ordering that book this morning. I have to confess to a certain amount of "rubbernecking" in my interest in the story. I know what happened but just can't quite get my mind around the betrayal that occurred, whether it was done out of greed or just plain egomania :(

I am reluctant to answer to that, not because I would try to be diplomatic, but because, at the end of the day, I would not like to put words in people's mouths.

I know that Mr Arneson was a scandalously underrated writer (as were Jeff Perren, RJK, and Don Kaye, btw), but I wouldn't be able to comment in detail how
much that really takes away from Mr Gygax, if at all. I like to think though, that it was more a clash of personalities than really an intentional theft of intellectual property.

Now, what I myself have observed is that the tone used by Mr Gygax and his associates was simply inadequate, no matter what their objective point in this was.
I am inclined to believe the people that don't use hate speech of whatever kind to get their arguments across, if you know what I mean.

Oh wow the red-head guy is a Post Reply button. Didn't realize that.
But good post Willmark!

While this is all good and friendly so far, lets avoid discussing other forums on the Comeback Inn. /Moderator Hat off.

-Havard

Yeah, be friendly, folks. When I have the big "Rafe turns 30" party later this year, I'd rather not choke people out over edition wars.




Like I had to do last year.




*Sigh.*


But, hey, on the upside, you're hereby invited to Germany in November. :D