Most likely, but then again, there's the thing:

We have multiple sources that are very similar - in fact, so similar, that a distinction cannot be made.

My personal bet is on Moorcock, rather than on CAS, though.

:P

That's a false dichotomy, actually. :twisted:

We have no effin' clue where Arneson got such generic tropes from;
thus, everything can be right, and everything can be used for reference.

(Inspiration then again, is a totally different matter - don't I tell oh so frequently that I mainly got into my Blackmoor mood
by reading the Osten Ard novels by Tad Williams?!)

As to CAS, I honestly don't think he was any more of an impact than other authors -
his importance again was likely exaggerated by the reception of the infamous Appendix N.

Actually, I think Poul Anderson wrote something about a frog god cult somewhere, but the bloody bastard wrote 120 novels.
I WILL investigate this, though.

Actually, I don't disagree with you that much, but I was icing my legs and watching the Scrubs episode when I typed this, and, you know... I like the video. Must make ringtone.

Okay, this was my fault for the way I phrased the question. We need to get away from the which book influenced what in Blackmoor topic. My interest in Frog Gods really has more to do with what I can borrow and insert into Blackmoor than what Arneson read or not.

-Havard

:mrgreen:

(We need moar smilie packs for the forum, BTW.)

Well, then it's a different matter:

Lately, I find that Lovecraft's stuff is inspiring to me, particularly "The Call of Cthulhu" - the novellette he wrote in 1928.

If I was to display the frogling culture, well, you know how I like to draw upon video games:

There are three classic games where Froglings play an important role, Breath of Fire II, Chrono Trigger, and Zelda - Link's Awakening.

I would likely draw on them most, particularly on Chrono Trigger.

(Rock the Frog's images are all from Chrono Trigger.)

Its a valid interpretation, but I prefer modelling the Froglin after the Deep Ones of Lovecraft's Mythos. That makes the Ashton-Smith approach to even better. Since they are most commonly adversaries, I prefer having them be scary rather than cute for the most part.

BTW they are Froglin, not Froglings.

Another reason why I like the Clark Asthon-Smith connection is because Ashton-Smiths works are also referenced in Mystara, especially in Gaz3: Principalities of Glantri.

-Havard

Sure, wasn't Averroigne retrofitted there or something?

Got to say, though, I personally try more modern approaches:

Like, the way the realm of Mer-Man (OMG OMG) is portrayed in Masters of the Universe makes a sensible background for the Froglers.