** ARCHIVED FORUM - ANY CHANGES ARE REVERTED HOURLY **



It is currently Nov 08, 2024 11:29 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Kissing Day
PostPosted: Jul 04, 2021 11:03 am 
Offline
Count
Count
User avatar

Joined: Feb 01, 2010 11:59 am
Posts: 1023
Location: Schenectady
Kissing Day is a fun idea for a holiday added to Blackmoor lore in the d20 Zeitgeist era. A whole Season 1 MMRPG was built around it. So, cool, but I was looking at the list of holidays and realized there is a significant problem with it.

Blackmoor is, in every iteration, a frontier northern land meant to mimic climactically Minnesota where Arneson lived.

Kissing day, according to the MMRPG Episode 18 is "a custom observed at the first party of the New Year.", and the 4e sourcebook (and prolly the 3.5 but I didn't check) lists Kissing day as Chrislina 16.

Okie doke, no problem there, but then we have the holiday activities described as:

"On this day people dress in colorful clothes
and extravagant masks and head outside for
citywide street parties all over the north."

The MMRPG episode also features an evening street parade after 4 and outdoor kissing booths.

Now per the books, Chrislina = February. Kissing Day is on February 16.

See the problem?

There is not one iota of a fraction of a mite of a chance that anybody with even the slightest amount of sanity would run around in fancy costumes having parties out in the streets and hanging out in kissing boths in the middle of February in a northern land like Blackmoor. Hell, even in a relatively warm place like Florida street parties are unlikely in the dead of winter, let alone some place like Minnesota (or Finland or Alaska or whatever northern locale you want to draw the comparison to) where it is virtually guaranteed to be well below freezing and probably snowing.

What's more, nobody is going to be having "evening" parades in the streets when the sun sets before 5.

It is a mind-blowing mistep that can't be left unfixed.

I think there are 2 options:

1) The date stays but the description changes from their being street parties and parades to indoor balls and parties.

2) The date changes to summer sometime.

Personally I think keeping the date is the least offensive to "canon" in that descriptions for things tend to vary and it is an easy tweak to move the party indoors, but that does bring up issues with the details of the episode 18 adventure for those who may want to run it.

_________________
"The gamemaster may find that sometimes it is a good idea to just let the unexpected lead where it will." Dave Arneson - DNA DOA

'blog https://www.blogger.com/home


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kissing Day
PostPosted: Jul 04, 2021 11:28 am 
Offline
Lord of the Regency Council
Lord of the Regency Council
User avatar

Joined: Nov 17, 2009 2:48 pm
Posts: 7335
Location: Norway, Europe
Very good point Aldarron!

Perhaps many of the traditions of Kissing Day were developed in the Thonian Empire, farther south?

You could still have some kind of parade outdoors, but it would be moved to the daytime and perhaps with torches and bonfires to keep warm. Perhaps warm wine is served.

But much of the activity would have to be moved indoors in Blackmoor as you suggest.

-Havard

_________________
Currently Running: The Blackmoor Vales Saga
Currently Playing: Daniel S. Debelfry in the Throne of Star's Campaign


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kissing Day
PostPosted: Jul 04, 2021 11:31 am 
Offline
Duke
Duke
User avatar

Joined: Oct 26, 2012 2:46 pm
Posts: 2022
Well... that date is pretty close to Carnival dates (although exact carnival dates change, following the lunar calendar, between late February and early March, as carnival traditionally ends at the beginning of Easter celebrations and fasting...) and the reference to masked parties and street parades sounds spot on... more or less.

_________________
He's a real Nowhere man, sitting in his Nowhere land,
making all his Nowhere plans for Nobody.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kissing Day
PostPosted: Jul 04, 2021 2:55 pm 
Offline
Comically Terrible
Comically Terrible
User avatar

Joined: Feb 02, 2010 4:27 pm
Posts: 1990
Location: TX, USA
The holiday always struck me as being more along the lines of a rite of Spring sort of thing....

_________________
Rob

Follow Thorn's Chronicle | |


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Copyright © The Comeback Inn
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.022s | 13 Queries | GZIP : Off ]