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 Post subject: Supplement II: Was there a lost Underwater adventure?
PostPosted: Apr 03, 2016 11:50 am 
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OD&D Supplement 2 has a We know from other sources that TSR's editorial staff were unhappy with the material that Dave Arneson submitted for Supplement II. We also know that TSR at the time (before JG proved them wrong), TSR did not believe money could be made from publishing adventures. Could it be that Dave Arneson submitted not only the Temple of the Frog, but also an underwater adventure for Supplement II? In supplement II we find two pages on Underwater adventures and a surprisingly large number of the monsters included are appropriate for underwater adventuring.

Add to this the lengthy background for the Sahuagin. The reference to Evil High Priests who can brieathe under water also seems like they are taken out of their original context. We know that Dave Arneson loved naval gaming, so could some of these pages be from something bigger that Dave was working on?

The following monsters from Supplement II would be appropriate in an Underwater adventure:

Mermen
Giant Crabs
Giant Octopi
Giant Squid
Giant Crocodile
Giant Leech
Dinosaur: Elasmosaurus
Dinosaur: Mosasaurus
Dinosaur: Plesiosaurus
Giant Shark
Whale
Giant Eel
Lamprey
Sea Horse
Portugese Man of War (Manatae)
Dolphins
Aquatic Elves
Pungi Ray
Manta Ray
Water Spiders (Giant sea Spider)
Weed Eels
Sahuagin
Floating Eyes (Fish)
Ixitxachith
Locathah
Morkoth (or Morlock)
Masher
Poisonous Coral
Strangle Weed
Nymph (as Dryad)
Leech
Evil High Priest (Underwater!)
Sea Hag (As Dryad)
Kopoacinth (Underwater Gargoyle)
Koalinth (Underwater Hobgoblin)
Lacecdon (Ghoul, aquatic)




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 Post subject: Re: Supplement II: Was there a lost Underwater adventure?
PostPosted: Apr 10, 2016 3:00 pm 
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That'd be nice, but I've never seen anything that would even hint at such a thing. Plus the TOtF itself is a pretty big work. Not sure Dave would have had time to write another scenario unless it was a fairly short kinda thing.

I'm also not convinced there is a whole lot of "lost" material from supplement II. Dave tended to recycle, and it seems likely to me that some of that stuff showed up later. Especially, I'd bet dollars to donunts that the "Special Interests" section of the FFC was part of the material Dave submitted for Supp II that got cut.

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Very interesting conjectures.

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